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Philadelphia Fed Manufacturing Business Outlook Survey

75warm

Now 20.9 | Data for Oct 2026

Hot and cold describe position, not good or bad: warm does not mean a fall is coming, and an extreme reading does not mean a quick reversal. We describe history only, with no buy or sell advice.

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What it is

Philly Fed: what is measured, and why it matters

What it measures

Each month the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia asks manufacturers in its district about business conditions: the share seeing improvement minus the share seeing deterioration. Above zero means expansion.

Why it matters

One of the earliest manufacturing surveys published each month, it often turns before official production data.

Public substituteWe use this in place of “Purchasing managers’ indices (ISM, S&P Global)”. PMIs use 50 as the line between better and worse and cover many countries; the Philadelphia Fed survey uses 0 as the line and covers only manufacturers in its district (eastern Pennsylvania, southern New Jersey and Delaware); OECD business confidence combines official business surveys from many countries. All three tend to point the same way, but their scope and numbers differ. They measure similar things, but they are not the same number.

Share answering “better” minus share answering “worse”; above 0 = expansion.

Where it stands now

Position over time

Data: Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, Manufacturing Business Outlook Survey, via FRED (Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis). Positions: our calculation.

coldcoolneutralwarmhotHatched = earlier periods that were also warm

When it was here before

Earlier warm periods (12), plus the current one

US stocks after it began, cumulative1 yr2 yr3 yr

  1. May 1978⁠–Aug 19784-month period, warm in 2 of those months1 yr+2.4%2 yr+10.6%3 yr+35.2%
  2. Oct 19801-month period, warm throughout1 yr−8.0%2 yr+1.9%3 yr+28.8%
  3. Feb 1983⁠–Feb 198973-month period, warm in 24 of those months · 1987 Black Monday1 yr+7.2%2 yr+23.2%3 yr+49.5%
  4. Jul 1991⁠–Aug 2000110-month period, warm in 37 of those months · 2000 Dot-com bubble1 yr+9.2%2 yr+17.6%3 yr+18.7%
  5. Jun 20021-month period, warm throughout1 yr−2.6%2 yr+11.7%3 yr+18.6%
  6. Aug 2003⁠–Apr 200521-month period, warm in 8 of those months1 yr+10.0%2 yr+23.7%3 yr+30.1%
  7. Jun 20071-month period, warm throughout1 yr−11.4%2 yr−38.8%3 yr−28.5%
  8. Sep 2009⁠–Jan 201117-month period, warm in 9 of those months1 yr+7.4%2 yr+12.4%3 yr+38.2%
  9. Jul 2013⁠–Dec 201418-month period, warm in 11 of those months1 yr+18.2%2 yr+25.5%3 yr+28.8%
  10. Dec 2016⁠–Jul 201932-month period, warm in 13 of those months · 2018 February stock sell-off1 yr+18.6%2 yr+14.3%3 yr+41.4%
  11. Aug 2020⁠–Apr 202221-month period, warm in 9 of those months · 2022 Inflation shock1 yr+31.3%2 yr+22.6%3 yr+31.4%
  12. Apr 20241-month period, warm throughout1 yr+5.0%2 yr+36.1%3 yrnot yet
  13. Sep 2025⁠–⁠now14-month period, warm in 4 of those monthsStill under way

For each period, the changes 1, 2 and 3 years after it began are cumulative and measured from its first month; “What happened next” is measured from every warm month, so the two give different numbers. The events named beside each period are major events of that time, not necessarily related to the readings here.

What happened next

How US stocks moved after earlier months with Philly Fed warm

Bars: median cumulative changeEarlier months with Philly Fed warm, excluding the current period (117)All months (583)

1 yr later
+9.6%down in 20% of cases
+12.2%down in 21% of cases
3 yr later
+37.7%down in 5% of cases
+34.6%down in 13% of cases
5 yr later
+67.9%down in 15% of cases
+65.3%down in 16% of cases

Median of the deepest drop below the starting month within the next 5 years: −2.3% for months with Philly Fed warm; −3.7% for all months.

The warm months come from a small number of market episodes (12), and neighboring months are not independent events; rises and falls are all listed. This is the historical record, not a forecast. “US stocks” means the S&P 500 price index compiled by Professor Shiller (monthly average, excluding dividends).

Where Philly Fed went next

Later positions of Philly Fed, after past months that were warm, like now
Median positionBack to neutral (40⁠–⁠60)Still warm or more extreme
1 yr later41neutral29%24%
3 yr later49neutral21%36%
5 yr later48neutral26%32%

Has hot or cold lined up with later returns?

No clear link in the past

1978⁠–⁠2021: average yearly change in US stocks over the next 5 years

Hottest 20%
+9.5%a year
All months
+9.4%a year
Coldest 20%
+10.1%a year

There is no clear relationship between hot or cold and what came next. The gaps between the bars are not consistent across months (rank correlation below 0.25); this is a record of the past, not a forecast.

What it is linked to

Links involving Philly Fed

Philly FedtoIndustrial outputCommon explanation: Knock-on · same direction

The new orders and shipments that manufacturers report lead actual production

This issue: Philly Fed at 75 (warm), Industrial output at 61 (warm) — both above normal, in line with the common explanation.

Supported by the dataAgreement +0.45 · in step in 10 of 10 5-year periods

Philly FedtoLeading indexCommon explanation: Knock-on · same direction

Business surveys are among the earliest signals of where the economy is heading

This issue: Philly Fed at 75 (warm), Leading index at 42 (neutral) — at least one is in the neutral range (40⁠–⁠60), so we make no call this issue.

Weak or inconsistentAgreement +0.31 · in step in 42 of 44 5-year periods

Values

Values over time

Unit: diffusion index. Data: Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, Manufacturing Business Outlook Survey, via FRED (Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis).

Data and sources

Where the data come from and how they are calculated

Source
Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, Manufacturing Business Outlook Survey, via FRED (Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis)
Frequency
Monthly
Positions start
Apr 1978
Method
Position = the percentile of the value itself within its own history
Unit
diffusion index
License
Public data, with attribution

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